OH BOY YOU JUST WANTED TO OPEN A CAN OF WORMS DIDN’T YOU. YOU KNEW WHAT SENDING THIS MESSAGE WOULD DO. OH BOY. LET’S RANT.
We are talking about a character who has canonically been tortured, had a non-consensual body modification, been emotionally manipulated (by Stane at least, we could argue Howard but with less canon proof) and actually looked death in the eyes multiple times. There have been at least 2 times that my tired, slightly tipsy brain can think of where he has to have thought “this is it, this is where I die”. Not to mention at the very least emotional neglect as a child. There was obviously more evidence of abuse in the comics but we’ll stick to MCU.
So YEAH. The guy’s got issues. He is, understandably, mentally unwell. He has, ON SCREEN, had multiple panic attacks. Panic attacks that revolved around THE ACTUAL LEGITIMATE POSSIBILITY OF ALIENS COMING TO EARTH AND KILLING EVERYONE HE LOVES, PLUS MILLIONS MORE.
And Wanda plays on that fear, on that mental illness, to manipulate him. No hate to her, I realise she had her reasons and all that, BUT WE CAN’T JUST IGNORE THAT. Tony was MANIPULATED into creating Ultron via his mental instability. And yes, we can admit, Tony only told Fury on screen about the vision. That I remember. Again, tired and tipsy, correct me if I get anything wrong here. But it is obviously later figured out what Wanda can do, what her powers are, and she manipulates the others of the team too. Clint even says (and I’m paraphrasing) that he’s been mind-controlled once, and has no desire to go through it again.
So they KNOW that Wanda can mess with people’s minds. And you’d have to think, at some point between Wanda and Pietro switching sides and Wanda becoming an Avenger and training as an Avenger, that it would be brought up, what she did to Tony. If nothing else, you would think the Avengers would make the connection after the rest of them (minus Clint) get the same mind-whammy. If nothing else, even if the Avengers still want to blame Tony for the whole mess, they should be blaming Wanda too. Not to mention the fact that Bruce (who I fucking love, okay, I’m not attacking him) willingly and with all his mental capacities, helped create Ultron. He was a willing participant, however hesitant he was to begin with. SO CAN WE ALL AGREE ALREADY THAT IT WAS NOT ENTIRELY AND ONLY TONY’S FAULT.
Okay and while we’re on the subject can we consider the fact that Tony is never comforted by any of his supposed friends/teammates about this? You remember JARVIS dying? I sure as fuck do. Remember how JARVIS was one of Tony’s longest and most trusted companions, right next to Pepper and Rhodey? Remember how Tony LOST him, to something that Tony helped create, and no one gave a single fuck? I DO.
Remember how Tony blamed himself for all the weapons being dealt under the table to the wrong people, all of the weapons he helped to create that ended up killing innocent people, even though he had no idea it was happening and stopped it as soon as he possibly could? You really think he wouldn’t be taking all the blame and internalising it and multiplying hundred-fold about Ultron? You really think he didn’t blame himself for all the lives lost in Sokovia? Just look at CA:CW for proof. A woman comes up to him and shows him a photo of her son, dead because of the battle in Sokovia, and you know that had to have influenced his position on the Accords. Christ, look at his speech about the son he gives to the Avengers. He clearly looked the boy up. Learned everything he could. Memorised every detail about the boy’s life, his bright future, looked at all the ways he was a good man who didn’t deserve to die. He blamed himself for that boy’s death, and no doubt every other death that occurred in Sokovia.
SO YEAH. IT FUCKING SUCKS HOW HE’S TREATED. IT SUCKS THAT DESPITE HIM BEING CANONICALLY MENTALLY ILL, DESPITE HIM BEING A MAN WHO’S ENTIRE ORIGINS STORY IS ABOUT TRYING TO FIX PAST MISTAKES AND CREATE A BETTER FUTURE FOR THE WORLD, DESPITE HIS EVERY ACTION BEING BASED ON A NEED TO FIX EVERYTHING WRONG, HE’S TREATED LIKE AN ASSHOLE, A SPOILED BRAT, A NARCISSIST, A SELF-CENTERED IMPULSIVE IMPOSTER.
ACKNOWLEDGE TONY’S WORTH AS A FLAWED HERO 2KFOREVER.
Agreed! Fun conversation will be had!